NADA values--are they an accurate representation of what used boats should sell for? (2024)

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  • Thread startertomjonesrocks
  • Start dateSep 18, 2009
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tomjonesrocks

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  • Sep 18, 2009
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Have run across many private sellers that seem to balk at selling their boats for anywhere close to NADA values. I am looking to purchase my first boat so am asking the question--are NADA values generally considered too low? Or is this just sellers trying to get more than their boats are worth?

I certainly don't feel the need to overpay in a bad economy, especially now that I'm shopping in the offseason--but are NADA values an unfair fair way to come up with a fair offer price for a boat?

Thanks!

seadoosnipe

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  • Sep 18, 2009
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No dice!....

No, NADA values are way over rated. If you read between the lines, these values are normally for boats/skis that are in pristine condition.

A lot of things affect the price of a boat/ski. The geographical area plays a big role in the price. You can buy a 1997 XP here in the south for about $2000, in great shape. But, that same XP might go for $2700 or $3000 out on the west coast.

The economy is also a big contributer of what the ski will fetch.

What you need to do, if your intersted in a boat is take some pix of it, make an offer and if the guy doesn't like it, then tell him thanks for showing you the boat. Then, come back to the forum and ask around what they think it's worth. Make sure you post the pix.....Send it to me via PM and I'll certainly tell you what it's worth.

I know a guy right now who has his 98 Speedster for sale with the twin 787's (I put a new starboard motor in it this past spring) and it runs somwhere over 50 mph. I thought it was in great shape. Some cosmetics needing done. Seats not ripped up. The boat is 18 ft in lenght and he only wants $4000 bucks for it...........that's a pretty good deal.

Do not let the seller tell you what your going to pay. You haggle with him and you only pay what you think it's worth.

Oh AND NEVER BUY A BOAT WITHOUT DOING A COMPRESSION TEST ON THE MOTOR!.........................:cheers:

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CypherAZ

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  • Sep 19, 2009
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tomjonesrocks said:

Well unsure if I need to start a new thread for this or not, but the boat is a '99 Speedster...the photos I currently have are here...no engine shot included.

NADA has the boat with bimini top at like $5300...the ask is much, much higher than that...this is the west coast though.

http://www.reconceive.com/boat/1.jpg
http://www.reconceive.com/boat/4.jpg
http://www.reconceive.com/boat/5.jpg
http://www.reconceive.com/boat/6.jpg

just for reference.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/boa/1366126184.html

RFoster130

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  • Sep 19, 2009
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I would think that would go for around 5500 to 6000.. It looks like it is in good shape. Has the bimini and Hydroturf. All the 98-99 Speedsters I looked at in this part of the country were all actually above NADA. I drove from KY to PA and paid 6200. Mine looked like it was almost new though and only had 82 hours on it.

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tomjonesrocks

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Thanks for the input. Based on repeated suggestions by posters here, I asked the seller if I could have the boat given a compression test at a nearby shop (at my expense) and was flatly refused--was pretty surprised by how annoyed the guy was.

Perhaps because you have to burn some calories towing a boat somewhere I can look forward to annoyed sellers if I continue to insist on this? Are most boat shoppers not asking to have these done?

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timmyboy76

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tomjonesrocks said:

Thanks for the input. Based on repeated suggestions by posters here, I asked the seller if I could have the boat given a compression test at a nearby shop (at my expense) and was flatly refused--was pretty surprised by how annoyed the guy was.

Perhaps because you have to burn some calories towing a boat somewhere I can look forward to annoyed sellers if I continue to insist on this? Are most boat shoppers not asking to have these done?

RITE-ON slick....if anything, if its someone from craigslist, then "flag" them, re-post about ur situation, to allow others that dont ask, so they dont get screwed....:cheers:

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jshaley

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Hey,

My two cents... as a long term shopper who has not found the right boat.

  • Mech inspection & sea trial are mandatory. Most do not balk at this. I make it clear thta this is after we reach a price and is not an attempt to nickle and dime 'em.
  • I watch similar boats on eBay. I may not buy from eBay, but the auctions that end in sales offer a perspective on market value. I "print" to PDF ended auctions (they eventually are not available on eBay) for future reference.
  • You should pay less in the off season (if there is an off season where you live)
  • I would have paid more right before Labor Day weekend, 'cause I was going away that week and would have loved to have a boat with me.
  • Personally, I rate fresh water boats a higher value than salt.
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NADA values--are they an accurate representation of what used boats should sell for? (2024)

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NADA values--are they an accurate representation of what used boats should sell for? ›

NADA boat values are used by banks for a base line value. For boats like Toons that are financed most of the time NADA can be somewhat accurate. For you boat, and it's age NADA is not accurate.

How accurate is Nada boat value? ›

We've found that those prices are most applicable in the small-boat and trailerable world. The more boat size and system complexity increase, the more variables have to be factored into a boat's value. For most boats, we find that NADA Guide figures are on the low side.”

How do you determine the fair price of a used boat? ›

There are numerous factors to consider, like make and model of the boat, its age and condition, the amount rigging features and electronics, the region and type of water where it has been used, and the total operating hours on the engine, just to name a few.

What do nada boat values mean? ›

NADA is principally a guide for loan collateral and insurance value and not always a good indicator of market value. Suggested list was retail/dealer price when the boat was brand new. You can use craigslist, eBay and other e market sources to get a better idea of market value in your location.

How do you find out what your boat is worth? ›

Boat Value Guides For Used Boats

Much like the Kelly Blue Book is used for valuing automobiles, there are three different price guides used for valuing boats: NADA Marine Appraisal Guide (Now J.D. Powers), BoatWizard's SoldBoats database and the ABOS Marine Blue Book (Published by Price Digests).

Is NADA a reliable source? ›

How Does NADA List Prices of Cars in Their Guide? Representatives of NADA promote their guide representing it as the strongest, most valid, and most reliable information list of auto market values when compared to the KBB guide, and even Edmunds pricing guide.

Is Kelley Blue Book or NADA more accurate? ›

KBB factors in the condition of the vehicle, local market conditions, and popularity of the vehicle, so their prices tend to be a lower than NADA. NADA values tend to lean higher because they assume cars are in good conditions. Insights can be gained from both values, but KBB looks at more factors.

What is the actual cash value of my boat? ›

Actual Cash Value is the value of the boat at the time of the loss. A boat insurance company will pay the insured value or the Actual Cash Value of the boat at the time of the loss, whichever is lower. In our example, if the Actual Cash Value of the boat is $25,000, this is the most you will be paid.

Can you negotiate boat prices? ›

Whether you're looking at a boat from a dealership or a private seller, you should be negotiating — it's just like buying a car. But negotiating doesn't come naturally to everyone.

What adds value to a boat? ›

Upgraded boats tend to have higher resale values. From advanced navigation systems to upgraded interiors, these enhancements not only improve the boating experience but also contribute to a boat's appeal on the resale market.

Is NADA value accurate? ›

NADA prices are considered very reliable when determining a retail price for a used car due to the data collection, long publication history, monthly updates, and respect the NADA has in the automotive industry.

How does NADA get their values? ›

Since NADA Guides was created out of a car dealers' association, NADA Guides use real sales data from car dealerships to reach their values. NADA Guides use three primary criteria to determine the value of any given car: Local market demand. Wholesale price.

Do boats lose value quickly? ›

The depreciation curve is particularly steep in the initial years of ownership, with some boats losing up to half their value within the first five years. However, assuming the boat is well-maintained, value retention tends to improve, and the rate of depreciation generally slows down after this period.

What is the blue book for boats called? ›

Introduction to Boats (ABOS Marine Blue Book) Since 1949, the ABOS Marine Blue Book has been the most comprehensive and complete resource providing the broadest range of detailed specifications and boat pricing information.

How are boats appraised? ›

A boat appraisal is a comprehensive evaluation of a boat's value based on various factors such as its age, condition, equipment, and market demand. Boat appraisals are performed by professional marine surveyors who have the expertise and experience to assess boats and provide an accurate estimate of their value.

How much is the average boat worth? ›

While boats can run from $200 for a small kayak to upwards of $15 million for a luxury yacht, the average cost of a new boat is $42,000. Used boats run about $10,000. But if you're looking to buy a boat, you'll shell out more than the sticker price.

Is NADA pricing accurate? ›

Are NADA Guide Values Accurate? NADA Guide values are considered by many to be overinflated, due to the fact that they don't factor in the condition of the vehicle. However, many dealerships and consumers still use these guides to get an idea about what their car is worth.

How does NADA determine value? ›

NADA calculates their car values by taking mileage, vehicle condition, and what optional accessories are equipped to a vehicle into consideration. If your vehicle is well-maintained, its value will be closer to matching the number provided by the NADA Guide.

How is actual cash value calculated on a boat? ›

To determine an item's ACV, an insurance adjuster will start from the cost of replacing your damaged or stolen property and lower the value based on depreciation factors, such as age and wear and tear. The process will vary by insurer, but your adjuster may help you to understand the factors that go into it.

How do banks determine the value of a boat? ›

Surveyors use pricing guides along with their vast experience in valuing boats. A seller or broker may think a boat has a specific worth, but until a survey is performed, those figures are only guesses. Banks and insurance companies use the survey value to determine loan and insurance hull value amounts.

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